CTV has learned details of what will be in Thursday's City of Winnipeg preliminary operating budget.

CTV has learned property taxes will remain frozen, a new hotel tax will be introduced, and there will be more money for police.

When it comes to police, there may be a commitment to a full time Emergency Response Unit, plus more foot patrol officers.

"I can't make a comment on that," Winnipeg Mayor Sam Katz told CTV's Kevin Armstrong. "Something could change on that once we know when that money is going to flow."

Ottawa money-man will be in Winnipeg

The federal government announced new money for police in its budget last week.

However, when that money will arrive could determine a last second addition to the city's budget.

Interestingly enough, federal finance minister Jim Flaherty will be in Winnipeg on budget day (Thursday).

This year's budget has caused debate behind closed doors.

Property taxes make up more than half the money needed for the operating budget, as expenditures increase while revenues decrease.

Councillor Jenny Gerbasi said that there's a point where something needs to be done.

"I think it would be completely fair to raise property taxes at the rate of inflation if there was a clear commitment not to eliminate the business tax."

The business tax makes up another piece of the pie which the mayor has long promised to eliminate. That move won't come this year.

However, there is still a chance an expected 11-year property tax freeze, could thaw.

After Thursday's preliminary budget is released, 20 days of debate will ensue.

The debate could still result in a property tax hike.

Don't count on freeze: Katz

"If we are able to maintain the freeze for the eleventh straight year, unless you see changes, don't count on it again in the future," Katz said.

What you can count is a new 5 per cent hotel room tax. It will also cost more to dump garbage at the Brady Landfill.

CTV's Kevin Armstrong will give you your first look Thursday live from Winnipeg City Hall on CTV News at Noon.